
NSW Premier Chris Minns told shock jock Ben Fordham聽on June 17 that he will not appear before the NSW Legislative Council (LC) inquiry established to ascertain how long he had known that an explosive-laden caravan, found on a Dural property, might be a setup, as NSW Police had said publicly in January.
Following this incident, NSW Labor passed new聽criminal offences,听alleging they were necessary because of an 鈥渁ntisemitic crime wave鈥.
The Daily Telegraph聽ran a piece this week about how the inquiry chair Independent MLC Rod Roberts would be signing summonses, calling upon the premier鈥檚 chief of staff and two deputies to testify at the inquiry. It described the laws that compel witnesses to address the inquiry or face arrest as
But an LC inquiry cannot compel Legislative Assembly MPs to testify, which means Minns does not have to, even though the first of the聽inquiry鈥檚 聽relate to how much he, NSW Police Minister Yasmin Catley and Attorney General Michael Daley knew about police doubts that the caravan was a legitimate terror plot prior to passing the new laws.
Established on March 19, the聽聽found, during its first hearing on April 7 with senior police, that Minns had been briefed 鈥渧ery early on鈥 that the caravan may be a set-up, yet he continued to suggest it could be a 鈥渕ass casualty event鈥 and 鈥渢errorism鈥.
The inquiry will look at whether Minns passed three hate crime and anti-protest bills, even though NSW Assistant Police Commissioner David Hudson had told him 鈥渧ery early on鈥 that there were serious doubts about the truth of the caravan incident.
Fordham said Roberts would be signing the summonses requiring three of Minns鈥 senior staff to testify because Minns and Catley refused to show.聽Minns replied that there are a 鈥渇ew reasons鈥 behind his decision not to tell the inquiry what he knew.
鈥淔irstly, we have a long 鈥 two long 鈥 periods of upper house investigations every year, estimates hearings, which I go to personally and they go for hours. They go for half a day,鈥 Minns said.
After Fordham suggested that Minns鈥 refusal was 鈥渁 bad look 鈥 dodging an inquiry鈥, he retorted: 鈥淥bviously, I鈥檝e got question time every day that parliament sits, and I鈥檓 available to the media and anyone else that wants to ask me and the executive questions.
鈥淚f the upper house did have their way, and this is a group of Liberal, Independent and Greens MPs, they鈥檇 have government MPs up there from the lower house, every 24 hours. They are incredibly investigation minded, and, at the end of the day, Ben, I鈥檝e got other things to do.鈥
Minns said the inquiry was based upon the suggestion that the Dural caravan posed no danger to the community, and he and his fellow ministers were well aware of this from the beginning. But he still pushed through the new hate crime laws based on the idea the caravan was a threat. He said these accusations聽were wrong and the committee members were running 鈥渁 giant conspiracy鈥.
Roberts has issued summonses to Minns鈥 chief of staff James Cullen and two deputies, Sarah Michael and Edward Ovadia. All three聽had been 聽before a May 22 hearing, but they all refused, via email, on May 16.
This appears to be why Roberts issued the new summonses on June 17, invoking a different law that can lead to arrest if those requested to testify do not do so.聽
Minns wrote to LA speaker Greg Piper on May 15, regarding the inquiry鈥檚 terms of reference, which he considers threaten the principle of comity between the two houses of parliament. He said he would have the Standing Committee on Parliamentary Privilege and Ethics scrutinise them to see if the inquiry should be abandoned.
Minns also said his newly summonsed staffers should not be compelled to appear before the inquiry because the police should be investigating.
Doubts abound
The caravan inquiry covers the period between January 19, when a caravan filled with explosives and a note listing Jewish premises were located on a property on Dharug land in Dural, and until February 20, when two of the three bills containing laws 鈥渞esponding to recent antisemitic behaviour 鈥 in Sydney鈥聽were passed.
The bills were rushed through as a wave of 鈥渁ntisemitic鈥 and anti-Israel graffiti, and arson attacks across the Greater Sydney region, took place from late October last year to early February.
However, on March 10, the Australian Federal Police and the NSW police revealed that聽the caravan and the entire 鈥渁ntisemitic鈥 crime wave .
Questions were raised about how long law enforcement bodies had considered these incidents a 鈥渃riminal con job鈥 and how much Minns and his police minister knew before passing the rights-eroding laws, which include new penalties for聽,听 补苍诲听.
The public was only informed about the caravan full of explosives following a leak. Minns, standing alongside NSW Police Deputy Commissioner Dave Hudson, said on January 29 that the explosive-laden caravan聽, describing it as 鈥渢errorism鈥.
贬耻诲蝉辞苍听 on January 30 that police were seriously considering whether the caravan incident was staged as a threat against the Jewish community. He was right.
The AFP announced in March that the entire crime wave was a 鈥渇abricated terror plot鈥, with organised criminals attempting to gain an advantage with police by providing tip offs about these 鈥渁ntisemitic鈥 crimes to obtain lesser punishment.
The NSW inquiry is attempting to understand when Minns first became aware that the police were questioning how genuine the caravan incident was. Hudson told committee members in April that he was suspicious as to whether the caravan might be聽 from 鈥渜uite early on鈥. He also recalled briefing the police minister on January 21, although not Minns.
No time to be questioned?
While Minns told Fordham he doesn鈥檛 have time for the inquiry, he did however find time to divulge on that program some information the inquiry committee members would have likely preferred they could have questioned him about.
Fordham asked Minns whether, after he鈥檇 been told by the police deputy commissioner that the incident 鈥渕ight have a hoax element to it鈥, whether he鈥檇 鈥渃ome clean straight away鈥 or whether he鈥檇 鈥渃onceal that information鈥.
鈥淐ertainly didn鈥檛 conceal it,鈥 Minns responded. 鈥淚t was presented to me by NSW Police at some point after the initial disclosure of the caravan, as part of one of several lines of inquiry.
鈥淣ow, given those facts, I would have been in a position where I said, 鈥業t鈥檚 one of several lines of inquiry, is it?鈥 to the deputy commissioner. 鈥榃ell, I am going to go out and do a media conference and say it might be this. I know you are investigating other lines of inquiry, as well.鈥欌
The NSW Council for Civil Liberties (NSWCCL) described Minns鈥 refusal to appear before the inquiry or to let his staffer testify as yet 鈥渁nother example鈥 of his disregard for democracy.
鈥淐hris Minns should be ashamed at his disregard for the health of our democracy here in NSW,鈥 NSWCCL president Timothy Roberts said. 鈥淎fter acting so irresponsibly in passing these repressive laws聽鈥 Minns will not, or cannot, defend them.鈥
鈥淚t is appalling that the premier and police minister have led the passing of laws criticised as being authoritarian, and then relied on executive power, liberties denied the rest of the citizens of NSW, in refusing to front up to a parliamentary inquiry that would otherwise assist in restoring community faith in our democratic processes,鈥 the rights expert concluded.
[聽writes for Sydney Criminal Lawyers, where was first published.